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Hello and God Bless in Jesus' name.
22 February 2010 @ 01:26 am
Dear Paster Arnold Murry my name is Kevin P Karcher

I'm 21 year old young man from Newbury Park California 91319

Ive been studying with you since 1995 and to this time 2010 ?

Um I would like to ask you if you can ship me a the Whole Series of the chapters of the Book of Revelation on Tape or DVD
plus I need the Christmas & Easter Tape or DVD too to study when I'm not working on my day off ?

I need this Bible Studies programs for me right now I'll ask more later ok ?

please contact me if you read this and have any questions

My email is KevLuvsJ5@msn.com

Thank You & God Bless
02 April 2007 @ 01:46 am
Would Jesus Keep Easter?

For millions of people Easter Sunday
is the most important religious observance
of the year. But, if Jesus walked the dusty
roads of Galilee today, would He keep Easter?

by Jerold Aust

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08 December 2006 @ 06:01 pm
Ganked from one of my lists:

* The very name by which Christmas is popularly known among ourselves--Yule-day * --proves at once its Pagan and Babylonian origin. "Yule" is the Chaldee name for an "infant" or "little child;" * and as the 25th of December was called by our Pagan Anglo-Saxon ancestors, "Yule-day," or the "Child's day," and the night that preceded it, "Mother-night," * long before they came in contact with Christianity, that sufficiently proves its real character.

I wanted to give an example of the meaning of the word 'yule' from the old pagan/kagan
(Babylonian) languages.
Isn't the symbology of throwing a 'yule-log' into the fireplace pretty obvious ??


Pagan Christmas ritual pressed on young kids
Elementary-age children given handout pushing heathen 'Yule' ritual tomorrow
Posted: December 8, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

A public-school handout urging young children in Virginia to attend a "Pagan ritual" tomorrow to "celebrate Yule" is sparking objections from concerned parents.

"Amazing – government schools ban orthodox Christianity, but allow an openly pagan organization to proselytize six-year-olds!" one observer who asked for anonymity told WND.

The concern has risen to such a level that the head of the Albemarle district in Charlottesville, Va., admits the policy allowing handouts may change, potentially eliminating them from all organizations.

The flyer in question is from a group called NatureSpirit from the Thomas Jefferson Memorial Church, a Unitarian Universalist congregation that also teaches "Exploring Islam," "Women Weaving Wisdom," "Discovering the Healing Power of Dreams" and other religious subjects.

The specific promotion that went from teachers and principals to elementary-age students in the district states:

"Happy Holidays? Have you ever wondered what 'Holidays' refers to? Everyone knows about Christmas – but what else are people celebrating in December? Why do we celebrate the way we do?

"Find out!" the brochure continues. "Come to Thomas Jefferson Memorial Church ... . We'll have an educational program for childeren (sic) of all ages (and their adults), where we'll explore the traditions of December and their origins, followed by a Pagan ritual to celebrate Yule."

The banner also displays three symbols: a cross, a Star of David and a pentagram – a star enclosed in a circle – often associated with paganism, witches groups such as Wicca, and even Satanism.

On their website, the sponsors say: "Nature Spirit welcomes diverse people of all ages and religious traditions who feel Nature is a vital part of spirituality. They affirm the spiritual teachings of earth-centered and Pagan traditions which celebrate the sacred circle of life and instruct us to live in harmony with the rhythms of Nature."

Sue Friedman

School Board chairwoman Sue Friedman told WND the flyer was distributed because the school was forced to do so, following a decision by the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Maryland.

The ruling concluded if one community group were allowed to use a flyer-distribution program at a school, then all groups must be given the same access. The group initiating that case objected to a policy that allowed school officials to arbitrarily discriminate against groups they did not like – in that instance, a Christian organization.

The district even made a policy adjustment this fall in order to accommodate that ruling, Friedman said.

"In order to allow the YMCA to tell you about their soccer league, or the Boy Scouts to tell you about their new troop, we have to allow all nonprofits," she said. "That's why we're seeing this flyer."

However, she noted, "that doesn't mean that policy will stay. We've had some real concerns from parents, who don't understand why we would [distribute this]."

Though she didn't reveal numbers, she indicated the concern was enough to attract attention.

Even though the flyer carries a disclaimer that it's not endorsed by the school, "parents think of things that come home to them as somehow being school-sanctioned," Friedman said.

She said it's an issue that has to be worked out in the community stretching over 742 square miles, but ranges from the eclectic University of Virginia neighborhoods in the city to rural communities where there are only 150 students in a school and the roads aren't paved.

Alternatives, she said, are to ban all flyers, or simply allow only those created by school and government officials.

"We were very clear this [policy] was a trial run to see how it went," Friedman said.

The reasoning to allow flyers on a wide range of issues was that in the smaller schools, those facilities provide a core for the community, and to eliminate that as a "communication vehicle" could leave children without information about some opportunities they would have, she said.

But with the current policy, there will be more and more such brochures for her schools to distribute, she noted.

The church website for the flyer sponsor includes information that a recent sermon was "Do We Believe in Sin?" while another was "Here Be Dragons: Approaching the Unknown."

During 2005-2006, the school handled 97 flyer distribution requests, ranging from children's theater and Cub Scouts to summer camps, swimming and softball leagues.

In the appellate opinion from Maryland, Judge Diana Motz concluded giving school officials "unbridled discretion to deny access to the oft-used forum – for any reason at all, including antipathy to a particular viewpoint – does not ensure the requisite viewpoint neutrality."

In that case, the school board specifically wanted a policy allowing teachers to hand out flyers from groups school officials liked, but that would ban flyers from Christian Evangelism Fellowship.

And that is precisely what the court concluded could not be allowed.

Have a wholly, pagan Christmas

As WND has previously reported, the celebration of Christmas is a major cultural battleground in the U.S., dating back to colonial America when Christians in New England outlawed Christmas, saying it was based more on ancient pagan traditions than instruction from the Bible.

Today, followers of ancient paganism strive to remind the public about the heathen origins of traditions that many may never have questioned.

Wiccan high priestess Selena Fox

CircleSanctuary.org is among the Internet addresses run by nature-worshipping pagans. Wiccan high priestess Selena Fox discusses the state of being pagan and celebrating the lengthening of days during the Northern Hemisphere's darkest time of year.

"Yule, the winter solstice, is a festival of peace and a celebration of waxing solar light. I honor the new sun child by burning a[n] oaken yule log in a sacred fire. I honor the great goddess in her many great mother aspects, and the father god as Santa in his old sky god, father time, and holly king forms. I decorate my home with lights and with holly, ivy, mistletoe, evergreens and other herbs sacred to this season. I ring in the new solar year with bells."
Fox even provides a list of suggestions on how 21st century citizens can take part in the ancient rituals, to "re-paganize" Christmastime:

a.. Have gift exchanges and feasts over the course of several days and nights as was done of old

b.. Adorn the home with sacred herbs and colors; decorate in druidic holiday colors of red, green and white

c.. Hang a sprig of mistletoe above a major threshold and leave it there until next yule as a charm for good luck throughout the year

d.. Have family/household members join together to make or purchase an evergreen wreath

e.. If you choose to have a living or a harvested evergreen tree as part of your holiday decorations, call it a solstice tree and decorate it with pagan symbols

f.. Reclaim Santa Claus as a pagan godform by decorating him with images that reflect his various heritages ranging from the Greek god Cronos (father time) to Odin, the Scandinavian all-father riding the sky on an eight-legged horse

g.. Place pagan mother-goddess images around your home, possibly including one with a sun child, such as Isis with Horus

h.. Honor the new solar year with light – light candles, burn a yule log and save a portion for the following year, put colored lights outside your home, and with the popularity of five-pointed stars, consider displaying a blue or white pentagram.
Current Mood: aggravatedaggravated
21 October 2006 @ 04:04 am
Posted by: "Linda" daystarskid Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:31 pm (PST) </h4>
Is the Bible the Word of God?
A Rational Defense of the Judeo-Christian Scriptures versus the Koran

Now having considered some of the standard arguments against belief in the
Bible as a contradictory, ahistorical document, what has survived? Above,
the Bible has been shown to be historically reliable, and that its supposed
contradictions" can be explained. The discoveries of archeology and the
preserved writings of various pagan historians mostly agree with it. Any
remaining discrepancies are something apt even by secular standards to be
resolved in the Bible's favor in the future, as Jericho's case shows. The
Bible's text can be determined to be reliable, as the Dead Sea Scroll
discoveries indicate. The argument from silence and the assumption nothing
supernatural (from God) could have led to the Bible's writing have been both
exposed as fallacies. Undeniable evidence for Jesus rising from the dead
exists for those with open minds: The evidence from ANY ancient historian is
more easily denied than that for the New Testament.

Since the Bible is reliable in what can be checked, it's a perfectly
rational inference (by induction) that what can't be checked (its specific
miracles) did happen or is true. The majesty of Christian ethics, such as
shown by its superior definition of love compared to Plato's dialog
Symposium, is so different from the run of pagan Roman mystery religions!
Higher critics, especially liberal Christians who don't believe Jesus was
God and the Savior of humanity, have to face the implications of the great
trilemma. They should explain who and what Jesus was--if He wasn't the Lord,
He had to be a deceiver or a madman--and give the evidence from the pages of
the New Testament for their choice. Higher critics should reply to the
standard conservative/fundamentalist Christian scholarship, something which
Bill Moyers' series on the Book of Genesis on PBS intentionally omitted.
Judging from their poor track record over the past 150 years, it's time to
be more skeptical of the skeptics themselves. Time and again, the skeptics'
claims against the Bible have been proven false; Why should you believe in
them instead of it? It's time to be open-minded towards, and accept, the
Bible as the word of God.
Although a thorough-going critique of the Quran (Koran) is beyond the scope
of this booklet, some brief points still need to be made in the light of
Islam's fast-growing popularity in the American black community today.
Although a standard Muslim claim says the Quran has no textual variations,
this is in fact incorrect. No one original manuscript of the Quran ever
existed, since Muhammad (c. 570-632 A.D.) didn't write any of it. Instead
various followers wrote scattered revelations on whatever material came to
hand, including pieces of papyrus, tree bark, palm leaves and mats, stones,
the ribs and shoulder blades of animals, etc. Otherwise, they memorized them
These disparate materials were susceptible to loss: Ali Dashti, a Islamic
statesman, said animals sometimes ate mats or the palm leaves on which Suras
(chapters of the Quran) were written! After his death, Muhammad's
revelations were gathered together to eliminate the chaos. (Even Joseph
Smith, founder of the Mormon church did better than this: The Reorganized
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints today possesses the original
manuscript of the Book of Mormon).
To solve the problems of conflicting memories and possibly lost or varying
written materials, Caliph Uthman (ruled 644-56) had the text of the Quran
forcibly standardized. He commanded manuscripts with alternative readings to
be burned. But he didn't fully succeed, since variations are still known to
have existed and some still do. The Sura Al-Saff had 200 verses in the days
of Muhammad's later wife Ayesha, but Uthman's version had only 52. Morey
says Shiite Muslims claim Uthman cut out a quarter of the Quran's verses for
political reasons. In his manuscript of the Quran, Ubai had a few Suras that
Uthman omitted from the standardized version. Arthur Jeffrey, in his
Materials for the History of the Text of the Quran, gives 90 pages of
variant readings for the Quran's text, finding 140 alone for Sura 2. When
the Western scholar Bertrasser sought to photograph a rare Kufic manuscript
of the Quran which had "certain curious features" in Cairo, the Egyptian
Library suddenly withdrew it, and denied him access to it.
Even when originally first written, certain problems existed, since Muhammad
would make mistakes or corrections to revelations he had made. Before
documenting examples of verses removed from the Quran, Arabic scholar E.
Wherry explained first: "There being some passages in the Quran which are
contradictory, the Muhammadan doctors obviate any objection from thence by
the doctrine of abrogation; for they say GOD in the Quran commanded several
things which were for good reasons afterwards revoked and abrogated." One
follower of Muhammad, Abdollah Sarh, often made suggestions about
subtracting, adding, or rephrasing Suras to him that he accepted. Later,
Abdollah renounced Islam because if these revelations had come from God,
they shouldn't have been changed at his suggestion. (Later, after taking
Mecca, Muhammad made sure Abdollah was one of the first people he had
executed). Muhammad had the curious policy of renouncing verses of the Quran
that he spoke in error. In the Satanic verses incident he briefly
capitulated to polytheism by allowing Allah's followers to worship the
goddesses Al-Lat, Al-Uzzah, and Manat (see Sura 53:19; cf. 23:51) (Note that
the title of Salman Rushdie's novel, The Satanic Verses, alludes to this
incident. For writing this book he was sentenced to death by Iranian
dictator Ayatollah Khomeini). Could anyone imagine Elijah, Isaiah, Ezekiel,
or Jeremiah doing something similar? Did Muhammad's God make mistakes that
required corrections?
Another problem of the Quran is that its teachings and stories in many cases
contradict the Bible. Theologically, for Islam, this poses a major problem,
because the Quran itself says the Bible is composed of earlier revelations
from the same God. Hence, if the Bible's different version of some event or
person's life is correct but contradicts the Quran's, then the Quran's own
appeal to the Bible's authority is proven false. Hence, Muslims can't just
throw away the Bible completely, but have to claim this or that part of it
was corrupted, while the Quran has the right version. But now logically,
granted the standard principles of the bibliographical test described above,
since the Bible was finished about 500 years before the Quran, it is the
more reliable document. In many cases, eyewitnesses wrote the Bible, or
second-hand reporters using eyewitness accounts. Muslims may routinely claim
the Bible has been corrupted, but the textual evidence shows otherwise: The
variations in the Old and New Testaments are actually smaller than the
textual problems the Quran ultimately faces, which Uthman's actions to
standardize it merely paper over. Furthermore, what textual variations the
Bible does have don't bend towards Islamic theology in any kind of
systematic manner. For example, the Quran denies the crucifixion of Christ.
There are no New Testament variations that deny the crucifixion. Furthermore
by secular logic alone, who is more reliable about this? An eyewitness such
as John, or Mark as informed by Peter? Or someone writing 500+ years later
who never even saw Jesus alive? Since Muhammad did maintain his revelations
built upon the Bible, seeing it as coming from the same God, the two shouldn
t conflict--but of course, they do.
Consider some sample contradictions and historical inaccuracies of the Quran
as compared to the Bible. The Quran says the world was made in eight days
(2+4+2--Sura 41:9, 10, 12), while the Bible says six in Genesis 1. Then,
still more problematically, the Quran elsewhere says it was made in six days
(Sura 7:52, 10:3). The Quran says one of Noah's sons chose to die in the
flood, and that the Ark landed on Mount Judi, not Ararat (Sura 11:44-46).
Azar" becomes the name of Abraham's father, not Terah (Sura 6:4). The Quran
also blunders by asserting Alexander the Great (Zul-quarain) was a true
prophet of God (see Sura 18:82-98). Secular history proves this to be
patently absurd. Alexander was a thorough-going pagan who never knew Jehovah
the God of Israel.
The Quran often gets its chronology skewered, putting together as living at
the same time who may have lived centuries apart according to the Bible.
This occurred because Muhammad evidently got many of the stories second and
third hand orally, ultimately often from apocryphal sources such as the
Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Barnabas, not from the Bible itself. For
example, the Quran portrays Haman, the prime minister for King Ahasuerus
(Xerxes I, ruled 486-474 b.c.) of the Persian Empire as Pharaoh's chief
minister when Moses challenged the king of Egypt (c. 1445 b.c.) (see Sura
28:38; 29:38; 40:25-27, 38-39). Another leading error of the Quran occurs by
mixing up Mary, the mother of Jesus, with Miriam, the sister of Aaron and
Moses, who had lived some 1400 years earlier. Note Sura 19:29-30: "Then came
she with the babe to her people, bearing him. They said, "O Mary! now hast
thou done a strange thing! O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of
wickedness, nor unchaste thy mother." In a footnote to his translation of
the Quran, Dawood tries to rescue Muhammad by saying it was an idiomatic
expression in Arabic meaning "virtuous woman." But elsewhere the Quran
refutes this interpretation, because Muhammad asserts the father of Mary was
Imran, Moses' father!. Note Sura 66:12: "And Mary, the daughter of Imran,
who kept her maidenhood, and into whose womb We breathed of Our Spirit . . .
The father of Moses and Miriam, according to the Bible, was Amram (Ex. 6:20
Num. 26:59). The Virgin Mary's father was Eli or Heli (Luke 3:23--see above
for details). Muhammad confuses King Saul with the earlier judge Gideon. At
God's inspiration, Gideon reduced Israel's army in size by eliminating those
who drank from the water in one way rather than another (compare Judges
7:4-7 with Sura 2:250). Another mistake, although it may be obscured in
translation, concerns "The Samaritan" deceiving the children of Israel into
worshiping the Golden Calf at the base of Mt. Sinai (mid-fifteenth century b
c.). Later settling in the Holy Land centuries later, the Samaritans didn't
exist until after the Assyrians had taken Israel into captivity (late eighth
century b.c. and afterwards--see II Kings 17:22-41). Rodwell translates
Samiri" here, but according to Morey, this obscures the real meaning in
Arabic (see Sura 20:87, 90, 96).
Further problems with the Quran could be explained, but this suffices for
our purposes here. Although few Muslims know this, the religion of Muhammad
s ancestors and his tribe the Quraysh involved the worship of Allah, the
name of the moon god, in pre-Islamic times in Arabia. Anciently an idol was
set up for Allah near the Kabah, where today Muslims travel in pilgrimages
to Mecca, Saudi Arabia to walk around. In myth, Allah married the
sun-goddess, and they together had three goddesses named Al-Lat, Al-Uzzah,
and Manat. It's hard to over-emphasize the significance of the truth that
Allah" was the name of the moon god in Arabia before the time of Muhammad.
It's no coincidence that during the "Satanic Verses" incident when Muhammad
weakened against idolatry briefly, he had allowed the same three goddesses
to be worshiped. Even today, the standard symbol Islam uses to represent
itself is (along with a single star) the crescent moon! (It's not sensibly
seen as just a symbol for Ramadan, the month of fasting during the daytime).
Evidently, Muhammad took a pre-existing pagan moon god of Arabia, and then
applied to this false god various stories ultimately from the Bible and
apocryphal literature about the True God. As Morey summarizes: "The cult of
the moon god which worshiped Allah was transformed by Muhammad into a
monotheistic faith." Compared to the Almighty God of the Judeo-Christian
Scriptures, the God of the Quran is a limited god who "inspired" the writing
of historically inaccurate, contradictory revelations.75
Current Mood: crazycrazy
03 October 2006 @ 02:43 pm
Posted from SC Mailing List by Linda

In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the anti-American

sentiment and negativity, we should remember England's Prime Minister

Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of

his Parliament members why he believes so much in America, he said:

 "A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in
 ... and how many want out."

Current Mood: contemplativecontemplative
03 October 2006 @ 02:41 pm
Reposted from Linda on SC Mailing list:

One day a while back, a man, his heart heavy with
grief, was walking in the woods. As he thought about
his life this day, he knew many things were not
right. He thought about those who had lied about him
back when he had a job.

His thoughts turned to those who had stolen his
things and cheated him.

He remembered family that had passed on. His mind
turned to the illness he had that no one could cure.

is very soul was filled with anger, resentment and frustration.

Standing there this day, searching for answers he
could not find, knowing all else had failed him, he
knelt at the base of an old oak tree to seek the one
he knew would always be there. And with tears in his
eyes, he prayed:

"Lord- You have done wonderful things for me in this
life. You have told me to do many things for you,
and I happily obeyed. Today, you have told me to
forgive. I am sad, Lord, because I cannot. I don't
know how. It is not fair Lord. I didn't deserve
these wrongs that were done against me and I
shouldn't have to forgive. As perfect as your way is
Lord, this one thing I cannot do, for I don't know

ow to forgive. My anger is so deep Lord, I fear I
may not hear you, but I pray that you teach me to do
this one thing I cannot do - "Teach me To Forgive."

As he knelt there in the quiet shade of that old oak
tree, he felt something fall onto his shoulder. He
opened his eyes. Out of the corner of one eye, he
saw something red on his shirt.

He could not turn to see what it was because where
the oak tree had been was a large square piece of
wood in the ground. He raised his head and saw two
feet held to the wood with a large spike through

He raised his head more, and tears came to his eyes
as he saw Jesus hanging on a cross. He saw spikes in
His hands, a gash in His side, a torn and battered
body, deep thorns sunk into His head. Finally he saw
the suffering and pain on His precious face. As
their eyes met, the man's tears turned to sobbing,
and Jesus began to speak.

"Have you ever told a lie?" He asked?
The man answered - "yes, Lord."

"Have you ever been given too much change and kept
The man answered - " yes. Lord." And the man sobbed
more and more.

"Have you ever taken something from work that wasn't
yours?" Jesus asked?
And the man answered - "yes, Lord."

"Have you ever sworn, using my Father's name in
vain? "
The man, crying now, answered - "yes, Lord."

As Jesus asked many more times, "Have you ever"? The
man's crying became
uncontrollable, for he could only answer - "yes,

Then Jesus turned His head from one side to the
other, and the man felt something fall on his other
shoulder. He looked and saw that it was the blood of
Jesus. When he looked back up, his eyes met those of
Jesus, and there was a look of love the man had
never seen or known before.

Jesus said, "I didn't deserve this either, but I
forgive you."

It may be hard to see how you're going to get
through something, but when you look back in life,
you realize how true this statement is. Read the
following first line slowly and let it sink in.

If God brings you to it - He will bring you through
Lord I love You and I need You, come into my heart,
today. For without You I can do nothing.
Current Mood: dirtydirty
26 September 2006 @ 01:25 pm
CWNews.com <http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/CWN/index.aspx> –
QOM, Iran - Whether it's his belief that Israel should be wiped
off the map, denials of the Holocaust, obsession with going
nuclear or support for radical Islamic terrorist groups, Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad is a man on a divine mission.

To understand him and that mission, you have travel to the small
dusty village of Jamkaran tucked in a corner of Iran's holy city
of Qom.

Behind the Jamkaran mosque there is a well. And according to many
Shiite Muslims, out of this well will emerge one day their
version of an Islamic savior.
They call him the Mahdi or the 12th Imam.

"The Mahdi is a personage that is expected to come on the scene
by Islam as a messiah figure," said Ron Cantrell, author of "The

Enter Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Since becoming the president of Iran
in August 2005, Ahmadinejad has emerged as the Mahdi's most
influential follower.

"He has stated that his mandate is to pave the way for the coming
of this Islamic messiah," Cantrell said.

In almost all his speeches, the president begs Allah to hasten
the return of the Mahdi.
Last night, just before ending his speech at the United Nations,
Ahmadinejad said the world was yearning for the Mahdi's return.

"O, Almighty God, all men and women are your creatures and you
have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity
that thirsts for justice, the perfect human being promised to all
by you, and make us among his followers and among those who
strive for his return and his cause."

Ahmadinejad is reportedly tied to a radical Islamic society in
Iran that believes man can hasten the appearance of the Mahdi by
creating chaos in the world.

"With him it is a win-win situation. If we attack him, he wins
because chaos happens. If we don't attack him, he gets to create
the chaos which he has said he is willing to do," Cantrell said.

On this Tuesday, as the sun dips behind the mountains that
surround Jamkaran, the faithful, many of whom voted for
Ahmadinejad, arrive by the thousands from across Iran to pray for
the Mahdi's return.

The night begins with a visit to the sacred well. CBN News was
given a rare opportunity to film people praying there. The
opening of the well is covered by a green-like metal box to
prevent people from jumping in.

Most of the time here is spent praying and kissing the metal box.
Others scribble prayer requests to the Mahdi on pieces of paper
that are then dropped into the well.

Many, like a young boy here with a flashlight, believe the Mahdi
is actually hiding at the bottom of the well reading those prayer

"I was looking into the well with my flashlight hoping to see the
Mahdi but not to tonight," said Abbas Rezaie, a follower of

And if all this wasn't mystical enough, there's also the belief
that when the Mahdi comes back, he will be accompanied by Jesus
Christ, who is referred to as the prophet Isa.

"The Mahdi will take Jesus to Mecca, they will circumambulate the
Kabah together," Cantrell said. "The Mahdi will teach Jesus to
pray at which time Jesus will then replace the Gospel with the
Koran and then all of us as Christians, wherever you are on the
face of the earth, will convert to Islam because Islam will be
deemed the one lasting pure religion."

Current Mood: crazycrazy
Posted by: "margie campbell" margie81672
Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:38 pm (PST)

>Good day to you. Arnold Murray here at the Shepherd's Chapel.
>Well hey, Iran has really done it this time. Just before their ultimatum by
>the United Nations, they fire off a long distance missile from a submarine.
>Now they (?) themselves really to a very DANGEROUS, dangerous position.
>Inasmuch as submarines can slip up on ANY city in the world. That is to
>say, New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco. Any coast on any nation and
>set them right up in Israel's basket case. So they really did themselves a
>lot of harm in doing this because they feel the fact that they will be
>taken out. That's way to, (?) refuse in two days--or its only one day
>now--to stop their enrichment of atomic or atomic enegry, claiming its
>that. You know they speak with a forked tongue because they will say "We're
>not harming any nation," and yet the next breath they say they're going to
>wipe Israel off the map. They're expecting all the Islamic Arab nations to
>back them up if they go for it. But you see, they're Persians. They're not
>Arabs and the Arabs are not going to be that quick to back up the Iranians.
>There's not really all that much love there anyway. And as I told you in
>the last report, many of the poor Iranians because they gave Hezbollah ten
>thousand bucks cash, and they received nothing. They're demonstrating in a
>big way and very unhappy. So, but the religious fervor that they have
>worked themselves up into thinking that God's going to give them the
>ultimate of whoever they hit. Its going to make them very easy pickings
>when it must be done. So they've done it to themselves inasmuch as they
>have raised it to a VERY, very dangerous level.
>You know, you have certain people think if you will vote for their party,
>they got a man that can stand out in the Florida Keys and stop hurricanes.
>Now that's absolutely utter nonsense. Everybody must take care of
>themselves. If there's a storm coming and you need water--store it. Don't
>wait, don't let the storm come and then hope the government will bring you
>water. They probably are not going to because they may not be able to get
>there. Everybody is responsible for their own self. So take care of
>yourself. That's the way you get ahead in being responsible and facing
>reality and taking care of yourself. If something is coming into your city,
>especially let's say like if you live eight feet below and a twenty five
>foot surge and you can only handle a seventeen--you better get out of dodge
>or you better be able to tread water for a LONG, long time. THINK. It's a
>real old world out there.
>Arnold Murray here at the Shepherd's Chapel. Hey, God's in control. Aren't
>you glad? God bless. Have a good day.
>Please listen directly to the phone message at 479-787-5556
Current Mood: contemplativecontemplative
26 July 2006 @ 09:03 am
The other day in Ireland they found a medieval book of Psalms buried in a Bog for over a thousand years. When they found it, it was open on this page:

The book was found open to a page describing, in Latin script, Psalm 83, in which God hears complaints of other nations' attempts to wipe out the name of Israel.

Nothing new under the sun here.

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